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The All Mounted Funtimes:
Prince on Star Dragon, Lance, Heavy Armour, Lion Cloak, Charmed Shield, Talisman of Preservation
Sadly still a bit tight on the points to really do it right, but this gets decent protection on the Prince, to hopefully live long enough for for the Dragon to kill some shit. Sadly couldn't afford the Dragon Armour, but 1+/4++ vs shooting should get him there. 3+/4++ in combats still a bit iffy but this will be played around with after a few games.
Noble on Barded Steed, BSB, Dragon Armour, Enchanted Shield, Dawnstone, Sword of Might
1+ rerollable and an additional magic weapon, gives him some killing power to run around behind the Dragon.
Level 2 on Steed, High Magic, Dispel Scroll, Ring of Fury
Mounted to keep up, runs around blasting away with the Ring and whatever I get from spells, but mainly there to buff/heal the Dragon. Ethereal Dragontime anyone?
5 Reavers
5 Reavers
5 Reavers
5 Reavers
You all get the gist. Eagles that are from Core pts? Yes, please!
11 Silver Helms w/ Full Command
Was thinking of running all Reaver core, but I really need another supporting combat block for the Dragon and another Champ to take challenges.
7 Dragon Princes of Caledor w/ Full Command, Banner of the World Dragon
That banner is way to good to pass up so I could never leave it behind. The ability to utterly neuter large parts of many armies is silly good! Princes give me some damage punch too
Lothern Skycutter w/ Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower
Mobile Bolt Thrower that can scare the crap out of Knights/MC units by getting into the flanks. Some S5 impact hits are also nothing to complain about.
Flamespyre Phoenix
Flamespyre Phoenix
Just an amazingly versatile unit. They can smash deeply ranked units that could lock me up in combat, like Slaves/Empire blocks etc and otherwise can support charge with the Dragon or fly over to hit Warmachines. I know several players rate the Frostheart higher, and the stat boost for 15 pts is crazy, but Rebirth and killing ranks is important to this army.
So thats the first list and pretty much the one I'll be aiming to play at Convic if I can get it into the Swedish comp system and my Phoenix arrive in time. Zoom, Zoom, Zoom!!!
Next up, we have a slightly more combined arms list that would probably be more solid but less enjoyable
Archmage, Level 4, High Magic, Book of Hoeth
Can 1-2 dice half the spells in the lore, yes please. Very tempting to go Light though.
Loremaster, Dispel Scroll, Armour of Caledor
Just so many uses...
Noble, BSB, Halberd, Dragon Armour, Shield, Reaver Bow
May as well be doing something from the back lines. Wildform makes it S6 shots too
Noble on Eagle w/ Swiftsense, Heavy Armour, Shield, Lion Cloak, Starlance, Dragonhelm
Quick, hard hitting Cavalry Killer. At 180 pts, I'm okay with him being killed too. Casting Ethereal and flying 20" behind the lines is all kinds of amazeballs too. Eagles getting Swiftsense is farking fantastic as they always get their attacks when he gets challenged out.
21 Archers w/ Muso, Standard
Bunker at the back, for some of the characters
5 Silver Helms w/Shields, Muso
5 Silver Helms w/Shields, Muso
5 Silver Helms w/Shields, Muso
Just fantastic little units that can kill chaff easily and sweep the back lines of units like Terradons, chamo Skinks, Shades etc. Also work very well as chaff when needed
6 Shadow Warriors
Just a little cheap annoyance unit. Run them down the back line after Warmachines and other stuff like that.
7 Swordmasters
7 Swordmasters
Chaffmasters are still awesome regardless of losing ASF rerolls. 78 points for 12 S5 attacks is fantastic.
21 White Lions, w/ Full Command, Banner of the World Dragon.
They still get 21 S6 attacks w/ Stubborn, and a 2+ Ward vs ridiculous amounts of stuff is crazy. Stubborn also makes them a pain in the arse. I still think they are great with or without rerolls.
2 Bolt Throwers
10 Sisters of Avelorn
Some solid pewpew vs armour and gives me the flaming attacks for Regen stuff.
So there we go, the first two lists that I've come up with off the bat. Theres probably a somethings I'm missing so let me know your thoughts.
Laters, guys!
golden crown of atraza on your eagle noble.. Come on its cannon fodder otherwise
ReplyDeleteGood point. Forgot we now have a second charmed shield!
Deletewell, actually a 2nd (cheaper) opal amulet :P
DeleteSome good thoughts there.
I'm still hurt from the loss of GW re-rolls on the characters (boo!), but I'm sure there are plenty of ways around that (looking at your Calv prince...)
The big thing keeping me up is the fact that cheap ranked infantry will still be an almost autolose (Skaven+ storm banner/warpgale I'm looking at you).
Oh well, I'm sure the builds will appear soon enough.
Its a pain but just means Lance/halberd/magic weapon instead. Given the points drop nit a biggy for me.
DeletePhoenix delete ranks but yeah Storm banner/warpgale becomes more of a nightmare, but youve also neutered plague/13th on your important unit so I think its s much better match up now
The Banner of the World Dragon doesn't prevent Dreaded 13th on infantry; 13thdoesn't inflict wounds and doesn't allow any saves. But it does affect the Doomrocket, Warp Lighting Cannon, Plague and Warplightning. Also, if that Abomb has Warpstone Spikes, run after it with the Banner unit. Howling Warpgale is going to be a key spell to stop for any High Elf list, given all the flyers we have nowadays.
ReplyDeleteI think it might be better on Dragon Princes, to give greater mobility and armour protection to your characters. The only problem there is non-magical attacks like Doom Divers, Fanatics, Organ Guns and Helblasters.
I'm not sure that a cavalry funbus is that great, though you could do one with 10 DPs, a Prince, BSB, Level 4 and another Noble (with Anti-Heroes sword). I'm not sure whether Beasts (for Wildform or Savage Beast for true carnage) is better than High Magic (for Walk Between Worlds chaff avoidance, or Ward Save boosts to the Ironcurse Icon for war machine protection).
Regardless, this book is looking very nice indeed. Now, how to make Spearelves work.......